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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by TOC</title>
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		<description>EDIT: &quot;a docket number of at least one court’s case would do for me&quot;</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by TOC</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>TOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian said: “Please people RAP has nothing to do with NESARA, you’re perpetuating a circle-jerk.”
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No? IMHO, RAP leaders have at least picked up some “inspiration” from NESARA (besides from Sovereign Citizen and American Grand Jury movements). Check out here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FuturePositive/message/225?var=1

You can find few &quot;eerily-familiar&quot; quotes from 2002:

&quot;There&#039;s a lot of Americans who know something is wrong and now they are beginning to hear about NESARA&#039;s benefits for them and NESARA&#039;s solutions for our country! &quot;

&quot;...the true NESARA law announcement is CLOSER to happening and WE are helping to make NESARA happen! Within 72 hours of NESARA comes our prosperity!...&quot;

&quot;The second reason the debt forgiveness is NECESSARY is that the ONLY way to restart the monetary and banking system under NESARA is to WIPE OUT the old system!...&quot;

&quot;...we have been given complete and permanent protection from all darkside attacks against us and our work...&quot;

If you cannot notice the analogy between both demagogies, then... 

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Before accusation us of having “High-School mentality”, please learn rules of rational, mature discussion: the one that makes claim has to prove it, not the other way around; extraordinary claims need extraordinary proofs.

I cannot and don’t need to prove the non-existence of something; TT has to prove the assassination attempt against him with verifiable evidences - as well as success of his tax evasion scheme with rulings in favor of it; a docket number of at least one court’s case would. Thank you in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian said: “Please people RAP has nothing to do with NESARA, you’re perpetuating a circle-jerk.”<br />
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<p>No? IMHO, RAP leaders have at least picked up some “inspiration” from NESARA (besides from Sovereign Citizen and American Grand Jury movements). Check out here: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FuturePositive/message/225?var=1" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FuturePositive/message/225?var=1</a></p>
<p>You can find few &#8220;eerily-familiar&#8221; quotes from 2002:</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a lot of Americans who know something is wrong and now they are beginning to hear about NESARA&#8217;s benefits for them and NESARA&#8217;s solutions for our country! &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the true NESARA law announcement is CLOSER to happening and WE are helping to make NESARA happen! Within 72 hours of NESARA comes our prosperity!&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The second reason the debt forgiveness is NECESSARY is that the ONLY way to restart the monetary and banking system under NESARA is to WIPE OUT the old system!&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we have been given complete and permanent protection from all darkside attacks against us and our work&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If you cannot notice the analogy between both demagogies, then&#8230; </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Before accusation us of having “High-School mentality”, please learn rules of rational, mature discussion: the one that makes claim has to prove it, not the other way around; extraordinary claims need extraordinary proofs.</p>
<p>I cannot and don’t need to prove the non-existence of something; TT has to prove the assassination attempt against him with verifiable evidences &#8211; as well as success of his tax evasion scheme with rulings in favor of it; a docket number of at least one court’s case would. Thank you in advance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by TOC</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>TOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian said: Wow, people you’re repeating known dis-info “updates” and repeating “he said she said”
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Gosh Damian, I don’t know where to start; when you mentioned “he said she said” I thought you were referring to numerous RAP leaders’ claims and announcements, sincerely. Can you substantiate any of them (few of those are listed in the last William’s comment) - of course except the infamous letter to Governors, which made no positive impact at all? 

And please stop with blaming game against – like it or not - de facto, until proven differently legal and internationally recognized US governments (at least few recent ones). 
 
I, for one, and probably majority commenting here don’t like the status quo. 
The question is whether T.R.A.P. is a realistic, better alternative to the current situation – after all empty promises and bold faced lies we all have witnessed and especially after surfacing of the “Restore America Security Council” document?  

As stated here: http://resistorperish.boardoo.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=24&amp;start=50

… this “document” reveals a harsh top-down, authoritarian, centralistic nature of the RAP “concept” - the exact opposite from what RAP has publicly promoted. Besides, TRAPpers have just discovered that Grand Juries had no impact on “election” of the &quot;Interim President&quot;; that has already been decided without their voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damian said: Wow, people you’re repeating known dis-info “updates” and repeating “he said she said”<br />
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<p>Gosh Damian, I don’t know where to start; when you mentioned “he said she said” I thought you were referring to numerous RAP leaders’ claims and announcements, sincerely. Can you substantiate any of them (few of those are listed in the last William’s comment) &#8211; of course except the infamous letter to Governors, which made no positive impact at all? </p>
<p>And please stop with blaming game against – like it or not &#8211; de facto, until proven differently legal and internationally recognized US governments (at least few recent ones). </p>
<p>I, for one, and probably majority commenting here don’t like the status quo.<br />
The question is whether T.R.A.P. is a realistic, better alternative to the current situation – after all empty promises and bold faced lies we all have witnessed and especially after surfacing of the “Restore America Security Council” document?  </p>
<p>As stated here: <a href="http://resistorperish.boardoo.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=24&amp;start=50" rel="nofollow">http://resistorperish.boardoo.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=24&amp;start=50</a></p>
<p>… this “document” reveals a harsh top-down, authoritarian, centralistic nature of the RAP “concept” &#8211; the exact opposite from what RAP has publicly promoted. Besides, TRAPpers have just discovered that Grand Juries had no impact on “election” of the &#8220;Interim President&#8221;; that has already been decided without their voice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by NotDuped</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>NotDuped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Economy - The economy will almost immediately take off. The crooks siphoned off the money, taxed the people into dust and then confiscated their assets. This will all stop and the reversals will be extremely fast. Remember RAP has a cash injection of trillions. American ingenuity and know how will again prevail&quot;

Just one of many of the wild RAP claims posted here: http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Tim-Turner-of-Restore-America-Plan-is-now-the-Interim-President-of-New-Republic-of-United-States.aspx 

All PRO-Tim Turner, interim prez, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Economy &#8211; The economy will almost immediately take off. The crooks siphoned off the money, taxed the people into dust and then confiscated their assets. This will all stop and the reversals will be extremely fast. Remember RAP has a cash injection of trillions. American ingenuity and know how will again prevail&#8221;</p>
<p>Just one of many of the wild RAP claims posted here: <a href="http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Tim-Turner-of-Restore-America-Plan-is-now-the-Interim-President-of-New-Republic-of-United-States.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/Tim-Turner-of-Restore-America-Plan-is-now-the-Interim-President-of-New-Republic-of-United-States.aspx</a> </p>
<p>All PRO-Tim Turner, interim prez, of course!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by NotDuped</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1049</link>
		<dc:creator>NotDuped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the correction, Damian. I personally don&#039;t listen to those T.R.A.P./TT, et al talkshoes.

&quot;Patriots Be Warned! Not only are these get out of debt by filing a new 1099 or UCC-1 scams that will take money you probably don&#039;t have, they will probably get your butt thrown in jail if it ever comes down to you having to use them.&quot;

Note, this is NOT my quote, but you can read of a few cases of people using these methods and being prosecuted here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/104734?page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the correction, Damian. I personally don&#8217;t listen to those T.R.A.P./TT, et al talkshoes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Patriots Be Warned! Not only are these get out of debt by filing a new 1099 or UCC-1 scams that will take money you probably don&#8217;t have, they will probably get your butt thrown in jail if it ever comes down to you having to use them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note, this is NOT my quote, but you can read of a few cases of people using these methods and being prosecuted here: <a href="http://www.dailypaul.com/node/104734?page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailypaul.com/node/104734?page=1</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by Damian</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NotDuped says:
July 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm

Also, TT had 6 attempts on his life??? Really? He must be Superman incognito, for now he’s going to be VERY busy (as in scarce?) for the next two months. 
(((((((((((((((((

NotDuped, 
You might want to listen again, your statement is somewhat incorrect. What he stated was not &quot;6 attempts&quot;. He stated it was 6 persons sent out to attempt an assassination.

(((((((((((((((((

Jerry, enjoyed the show. I sense I may have judged you unfairly.
Thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NotDuped says:<br />
July 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm</p>
<p>Also, TT had 6 attempts on his life??? Really? He must be Superman incognito, for now he’s going to be VERY busy (as in scarce?) for the next two months.<br />
(((((((((((((((((</p>
<p>NotDuped,<br />
You might want to listen again, your statement is somewhat incorrect. What he stated was not &#8220;6 attempts&#8221;. He stated it was 6 persons sent out to attempt an assassination.</p>
<p>(((((((((((((((((</p>
<p>Jerry, enjoyed the show. I sense I may have judged you unfairly.<br />
Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by Damian</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NotDuped says:
July 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm

Also, TT had 6 attempts on his life??? Really? He must be Superman incognito, for now he’s going to be VERY busy (as in scarce?) for the next two months. 
(((((((((((((((((

NotDuped, 
You might want to listen again, your statement is somewhat incorrect. What he stated was not &quot;6 attempts&quot;. He stated it was 6 persons sent out to attempt an assassination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NotDuped says:<br />
July 30, 2010 at 7:25 pm</p>
<p>Also, TT had 6 attempts on his life??? Really? He must be Superman incognito, for now he’s going to be VERY busy (as in scarce?) for the next two months.<br />
(((((((((((((((((</p>
<p>NotDuped,<br />
You might want to listen again, your statement is somewhat incorrect. What he stated was not &#8220;6 attempts&#8221;. He stated it was 6 persons sent out to attempt an assassination.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by Damian</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry, 
You&#039;re right in calling me out. I should not have vented using the above and duly noted inappropriate description, I apologize. I will not take back my statement which had to do with my first impression while reading some of these comments, repeaters repeating dis-info. It&#039;s irrelevant. I guess some people are just lonely and can&#039;t get beyond High-School mentality.  I&#039;ll accept it for what it is.

In an attempt to answer your questions;
1. I do not see Tim Turner as my President (as of yet). I do not see Barack Obama as my President. Not knowing the extenuating circumstances, as no one does, I cannot say whether it was right or wrong to take nearly two months without weekly communication to RAP members. The postulating here and there is trite. I doubt he was golfing, partying and vacationing with friends while the Gulf&#039;s citizens, animals and fish-life began to bleed out of all orifices and stop breathing, while being poisoned with Core Exit.
2. Is not applicable, as described above, still in the discovery phase.

I have researched injured parties and could not find a list of those financially hurt by Tim Turner, are you able to provide one?  If so, please do. I&#039;d love to see it.  We can then compare it to the ever-growing list of those who have been financially hurt/wiped out, physically hurt, killed and lied to by our past administrations dating back to I believe 1867, give or take a few years. Both party&#039;s are responsible.

As far as a connection between NESARA and RAP, with all due respect, I believe it is you who needs further research Casper and John MacHaffie.  NESARA has been around for quite some time preaching &quot;prosperity packets and unicorns&quot; for years and years. You see, NESARA desperately wants to be associated with RAP, it is not the other way around. Now if you have links from RAP founders stating such, please do share.

No, I do not live and breathe RAP. I do know if we don&#039;t change back to our Constitutional law, life as we know it will cease to exist. Do you not agree we&#039;re being lied to daily, our freedoms being liquidated just as quickly? So blatant and aggressive it&#039;s nauseating?

Sharing ideas is great Jerry. Let me ask you another question, are you serious or did you just develop this blog to shred any alternative and use it as subject matter? 
In closing, I&#039;ll take your extended handshake, I&#039;ll listen to the show. 
I thank you for your time.

-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,<br />
You&#8217;re right in calling me out. I should not have vented using the above and duly noted inappropriate description, I apologize. I will not take back my statement which had to do with my first impression while reading some of these comments, repeaters repeating dis-info. It&#8217;s irrelevant. I guess some people are just lonely and can&#8217;t get beyond High-School mentality.  I&#8217;ll accept it for what it is.</p>
<p>In an attempt to answer your questions;<br />
1. I do not see Tim Turner as my President (as of yet). I do not see Barack Obama as my President. Not knowing the extenuating circumstances, as no one does, I cannot say whether it was right or wrong to take nearly two months without weekly communication to RAP members. The postulating here and there is trite. I doubt he was golfing, partying and vacationing with friends while the Gulf&#8217;s citizens, animals and fish-life began to bleed out of all orifices and stop breathing, while being poisoned with Core Exit.<br />
2. Is not applicable, as described above, still in the discovery phase.</p>
<p>I have researched injured parties and could not find a list of those financially hurt by Tim Turner, are you able to provide one?  If so, please do. I&#8217;d love to see it.  We can then compare it to the ever-growing list of those who have been financially hurt/wiped out, physically hurt, killed and lied to by our past administrations dating back to I believe 1867, give or take a few years. Both party&#8217;s are responsible.</p>
<p>As far as a connection between NESARA and RAP, with all due respect, I believe it is you who needs further research Casper and John MacHaffie.  NESARA has been around for quite some time preaching &#8220;prosperity packets and unicorns&#8221; for years and years. You see, NESARA desperately wants to be associated with RAP, it is not the other way around. Now if you have links from RAP founders stating such, please do share.</p>
<p>No, I do not live and breathe RAP. I do know if we don&#8217;t change back to our Constitutional law, life as we know it will cease to exist. Do you not agree we&#8217;re being lied to daily, our freedoms being liquidated just as quickly? So blatant and aggressive it&#8217;s nauseating?</p>
<p>Sharing ideas is great Jerry. Let me ask you another question, are you serious or did you just develop this blog to shred any alternative and use it as subject matter?<br />
In closing, I&#8217;ll take your extended handshake, I&#8217;ll listen to the show.<br />
I thank you for your time.</p>
<p>-D</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by Jerry</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 03:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a couple of questions for you Damian.  1. Do you believe that Tim Turner is your president.  2. If is he is your president do you think it is OK for him to be &quot;busy&quot; for one to two months and not do any interviews?  Does that sound like a president that America or forgive me the Republic of America should have?  NESARA if you investigate it (and you do not follow blindly) has everything to to with T.R.A.P. and if you research the sovereign movement you will find it to be the roots of T.R.A.P.  If you research the sovereign movement you will also find many people have been financially harmed by Tim Turners (payed)advice.  Please research for yourself do not believe what you are told!  

Finally we understand that you follow T.R.A.P. we have no problem with that this is a open forum and open website (hell if we are wrong you have info we need or visa versa), however; we would appreciate it if you watch your language (circle-jerk).  When you don&#039;t watch your language it makes you sound frustrated and inarticulate.

All of that being asked and said Damian why don&#039;t you just listen to the latest edition of Prepare Radio &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://prepareradio.com/episode-7-30-10-dastardly-plans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Episode: 7.30.10 Dastardly Plans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and chillax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a couple of questions for you Damian.  1. Do you believe that Tim Turner is your president.  2. If is he is your president do you think it is OK for him to be &#8220;busy&#8221; for one to two months and not do any interviews?  Does that sound like a president that America or forgive me the Republic of America should have?  NESARA if you investigate it (and you do not follow blindly) has everything to to with T.R.A.P. and if you research the sovereign movement you will find it to be the roots of T.R.A.P.  If you research the sovereign movement you will also find many people have been financially harmed by Tim Turners (payed)advice.  Please research for yourself do not believe what you are told!  </p>
<p>Finally we understand that you follow T.R.A.P. we have no problem with that this is a open forum and open website (hell if we are wrong you have info we need or visa versa), however; we would appreciate it if you watch your language (circle-jerk).  When you don&#8217;t watch your language it makes you sound frustrated and inarticulate.</p>
<p>All of that being asked and said Damian why don&#8217;t you just listen to the latest edition of Prepare Radio <strong><a href="http://prepareradio.com/episode-7-30-10-dastardly-plans" rel="nofollow">Episode: 7.30.10 Dastardly Plans</a></strong> and chillax.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Restore America Plan (T.R.A.P.) Open Forum and Daily Updates by Damian</title>
		<link>http://prepareradio.com/the-restore-america-plan-is-fake/comment-page-3#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please people RAP has nothing to do with NESARA, you&#039;re perpetuating a circle-jerk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please people RAP has nothing to do with NESARA, you&#8217;re perpetuating a circle-jerk.</p>
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